tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post7769148060895441101..comments2024-02-28T18:29:41.120-08:00Comments on Not of General Interest: The Venn diagram of student musical knowledgeundinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05589384016564587214noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-84445476949440528622012-04-16T01:55:50.603-07:002012-04-16T01:55:50.603-07:00I've found these hilarious lyrics of long long...I've found these hilarious lyrics of long long ago memory: http://www.hengstrom.net/songbook/44.htmlZhttp://profacero.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-42812738257937548622012-04-09T21:10:03.568-07:002012-04-09T21:10:03.568-07:00Correction: I mean East of the Rockies there isn&#...Correction: I mean East of the Rockies there isn't, only West of the Rockies there is (it's a whole line of volcanoes streching all the way down through the Andes).Zhttp://profacero.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-43095543482298985272012-04-09T20:55:38.800-07:002012-04-09T20:55:38.800-07:00Shockingly, I know most of these: http://ejas.revu...Shockingly, I know most of these: http://ejas.revues.org/8962<br /><br />There was also the American Songbag:<br />http://archive.org/details/americansongbag029895mbp<br /><br />And the song, Abdul Abulbul Ameer, you have to have had relatives born in the 19th century to know that.<br /><br />Roll on, Columbia, it rouses the sentiments of every exiled West Coaster: "Green Douglas firs where the water cuts through / right down the wild mountains, through the canyons she flew / Canadian Northwest to the ocean so blue / It's roll on, Columbia, roll on." West of the Rockies there just isn't such a dramatic landscape.Zhttp://profacero.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-77141689195710931202012-04-09T15:36:14.151-07:002012-04-09T15:36:14.151-07:00Z--I cannot believe that they made you sing that s...Z--I cannot believe that they made you sing that song! I didn't know that about "Roll On, Columbia" and don't know if I've ever heard it, though I know "Jackhammer John" and a bunch of other Guthrie. My students seem to know fairy tales but only the Disney version. Cinderella's stepsisters do not cut off their toes to fit into the glass slipper in the versions they read.<br /><br />Dame Eleanor--Like Sir John, I was brought up Catholic, and when I first sang "O Little Town of Bethlehem," I thought it was a sin for me to sing it because it was a Protestant hymn. True story. <br /><br />I know what you mean about the modern anodyne music, which all seems to have been composed by one mildly talented guitarist in 1972 and put in every church service that exists. <br /><br />Anonymous--I didn't know that! I would love to see that paper, if you can send it: notofgeneralinterest@gmail.com<br /><br />It's amazing to me that "Alouette" is as popular as it is, once I figured out that it's basically about taking a bird apart piece by piece.undinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05589384016564587214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-88295011913592414582012-04-09T15:01:59.061-07:002012-04-09T15:01:59.061-07:00this is actually closely related to my research in...this is actually closely related to my research interests, and I have a few years of student projects wherein they list the songs they learned aurally/orally, mostly as children. While they're more likely than I was to have learned some of the things from recordings, there's actually a lot of crossover between my list and theirs. "Erie Canal," "This old Man," "America," "Alouette, and quite a few others. The music ed association MENC printed a list of songs all American should know about 15 years ago; happy to send you my paper on it if you're interested.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-19651961593489863142012-04-09T04:31:03.309-07:002012-04-09T04:31:03.309-07:00There was only one year when we learned much music...There was only one year when we learned much music in school. One of my mental stores is hymns, and their language, which I treasure; I mean the old stuff, not modern anodyne church music which I find appalling. Through living with Sir John, who was brought up Catholic, I've learned how specifically Protestant most of my stock is, something I hadn't realized before.Dame Eleanor Hullhttp://dameeleanorhull.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-7540927354898280772012-04-08T22:30:18.553-07:002012-04-08T22:30:18.553-07:00Ah - also - I hear that it is still or was recentl...Ah - also - I hear that it is still or was recently still standard in Portland, OR to sing the Woody Guthrie song, "Roll On, Columbia." I see now that it is the state folk song of Washington. http://www.netstate.com/states/symb/song/wa_roll_on_columbia.htm<br /><br />Fewer people than I would think grew up with folk, it seems; also current students did not read fairy tales.Zhttp://profacero.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-38408691443412102442012-04-08T22:25:13.401-07:002012-04-08T22:25:13.401-07:00I remember the song I most objected to singing in ...I remember the song I most objected to singing in elementary school: The Ballad of the Green Berets. The speaker/hero is killed in [Viet Nam] and his last words direct his wife to make a soldier of the baby.Zhttp://profacero.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com