tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post365833049368126536..comments2024-02-28T18:29:41.120-08:00Comments on Not of General Interest: The magic box of writing talentundinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05589384016564587214noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-56493946483348056562009-03-05T07:16:00.000-08:002009-03-05T07:16:00.000-08:00Professor Z, that sounds like a big challenge but ...Professor Z, that sounds like a big challenge but one that's exciting. So they can read the words but maybe not get the meaning if it's a sophisticated or complicated passage? <BR/><BR/>And I did not know (as I should have) until this minute that ACTFL had such a standard, but that sounds like a good thing to learn, too.undinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05589384016564587214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-52586894179746035522009-03-05T07:08:00.000-08:002009-03-05T07:08:00.000-08:00Bardiac, I agree that it's better to confer, but t...Bardiac, I agree that it's better to confer, but the context is everything for me: a group setting where we're exchanging ideas works for me, but one-on-one has led to a couple of condescension moments not unlike those I've experienced with a few librarians. That is, Bright Young Thing has said "you should try X technique," and, when I said that I'd been doing that for years, said something along the lines of "you couldn't have, because Fancy Comp Theorist just discovered X technique"--as if someone teaching comp would never discover something without being told or it wasn't perfectly obvious to anyone with half a brain to begin with. That made me tired, not to say mad, so of course I've steered clear of such encounters since then.undinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05589384016564587214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-84572106875458575062009-03-04T12:20:00.000-08:002009-03-04T12:20:00.000-08:00The hard part of it is figuring out exactly where ...The hard part of it is figuring out exactly where the student *really* is with both writing and reading, because that's where you have to start. A lot of mine can't really read and are hiding it. This makes it hard to figure out where to begin with writing ... the ones who WILL say they can't read, or who do not deny it when you realize it and try to address it, are a lot easier to teach.<BR/><BR/>I NEED a course on how to teach reading and writing at the advanced elementary / middle school levels. That's the kind of expert I need to consult. I DO remember learning the things I am supposed to teach but it was in elementary and middle school, so the format was different and there was a lot more time. <BR/><BR/>My other big goal besides learning how to teach reading and writing at the K-8 level is learning how to *really* grade a composition in a foreign language according to ACTFL standards. THAT would be useful, and it would be college level.Professor Zerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04909063513731044826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-24161025194825471912009-03-04T05:43:00.000-08:002009-03-04T05:43:00.000-08:00Good point; sometimes the advice is impractical (t...Good point; sometimes the advice is impractical (the Mina Shaughnessy thing you mentioned) or contradictory. I think it's still better to talk to someone who's up on research and such and get ideas, rather than floundering alone or trying to figure out where to start by oneself.<BR/><BR/>my capcha is quilic, which has something to do with old writing styles?Bardiachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.com