tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post8609128794881459872..comments2024-02-28T18:29:41.120-08:00Comments on Not of General Interest: The value of formulasundinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05589384016564587214noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-58318198336996648932008-04-10T00:46:00.000-07:002008-04-10T00:46:00.000-07:00I need this book.I need this book.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-23369850389576631402008-04-09T10:47:00.000-07:002008-04-09T10:47:00.000-07:00bardiac and jm, you've made me want to read their ...bardiac and jm, you've made me want to read their book even more; I think I would be a fan, too. bittersweet girl, I wish they would come to our campus; I'd like to see a presentation like that. stupendouswoman, the creative/technical divide shouldn't really be there, which is what I think all of us are saying. Even Keats had to learn the form of a sonnet before he could cut loose and get down with his Romantic self.undinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05589384016564587214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-91744503746931320972008-04-09T04:13:00.000-07:002008-04-09T04:13:00.000-07:00I completely agree with the use of formulas. Howev...I completely agree with the use of formulas. However, most of my students still need to learn to distanciate themselves from the texts they are presenting. Therefore, I usually spend lots of time reminding them to use “According to...” or “The research has showed that...” -- and I am not even teaching comp. <BR/><BR/>I don't know why there is such reticence to consider writing as a technical, as well as a communicative and artistic skill. Most students seem genuinely relieved -- and improved! -- when they see that good writing has more to do with structure than with some mythical inspiration. ;)Maybe Mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11807720351193386288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-30434953330281510572008-04-06T06:10:00.000-07:002008-04-06T06:10:00.000-07:00I saw them give a presentation and they completely...I saw them give a presentation and they completely overcame my initial skepticism: "But formulas will squash the creative work of the mind!" Enough of that fantasy! I've used their formulas in all levels of teaching from intro to grad classes and they've only been helpful. Students /do/ end up being more creative, more thoughtful, and more substantive when they have a model to follow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-75484685553905521682008-04-05T11:31:00.000-07:002008-04-05T11:31:00.000-07:00At WSU, their _TS/IS_ book is the only required te...At WSU, their _TS/IS_ book is the only required text in all of the comp classes. As you can imagine, there are plenty of people on both sides of the fence. I am on the side of formulas as liberating and not restrictive. I have been teaching other things here and not comp, but I am looking forward to teaching with this framework. I wish I knew about it when I was at SJSU and teaching comp there, but _TS/IS_ had just been published, we didn't have any sort of departmental support for using it, and I was still learning the ropes. <BR/><BR/>In brief (which I have not been in this comment), I'm a fan.JMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04138401393364371648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-58634274028467475292008-04-05T08:43:00.000-07:002008-04-05T08:43:00.000-07:00I've just recently started using their book, and I...I've just recently started using their book, and I'm impressed. I sure wish I'd read it as an undergrad!Bardiachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.com