tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post3509743155239132938..comments2024-02-28T18:29:41.120-08:00Comments on Not of General Interest: I'm not ready for my closeup, Mr. DeMilleundinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05589384016564587214noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-84648661653800128702008-09-29T17:55:00.000-07:002008-09-29T17:55:00.000-07:00anonymous, I read the material at that link, and i...anonymous, I read the material at that link, and it's right--to a point. But smaller classes, and larger classes with gifted lecturers, are still worth having, I think.undinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05589384016564587214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-40360477691935868612008-09-28T09:17:00.000-07:002008-09-28T09:17:00.000-07:00Given the size of classes, there is rarely any opp...Given the size of classes, there is rarely any opportunity for real interaction. Recommended read:<BR/>"Don't Lecture Me, I Can Read!"<BR/><BR/>http://elephantintheroom.ca/?p=18<BR/><BR/>Not ready for film, but ready for improv?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-5505534816015453822008-09-25T22:04:00.000-07:002008-09-25T22:04:00.000-07:00P. S. Maybe we could stop the lectures in the midd...P. S. Maybe we could stop the lectures in the middle, as in the Disney movie of Peter Pan, and ask everyone at home to clap their hands if they believe in Tinkerbell.undinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05589384016564587214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-42630491665251106762008-09-25T22:03:00.000-07:002008-09-25T22:03:00.000-07:00the_myth, I wonder if they will listen to/watch po...the_myth, I wonder if they will listen to/watch podcasts if they won't read. All that new research on internet reading seems to suggest that it's faster than either listening to a lecture OR reading a book. I know I won't listen to a podcast or even most video clips since I can scan a page a lot faster. The "F-shaped reading pattern" makes short work of most pages, even if Mark Bauerlein thinks we're going to hell for reading this way.<BR/><BR/>Bardiac, that kind of listening for information can be really interesting; I've listened to a couple of lectures this way when transcripts weren't available. The large lecture class would be a better choice for this kind of thing, but it's ironic that the more in-class interaction there is, the more boring it is for students watching.undinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05589384016564587214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-50461706857875807582008-09-25T06:23:00.000-07:002008-09-25T06:23:00.000-07:00I listened to a couple lecture courses when I was ...I listened to a couple lecture courses when I was teaching abroad last semester, and they were really interesting. I don't remember them the way I would have if I'd done reading, taken notes and so forth, but they were well done. <BR/><BR/>They seem to work relatively well in large lectures of a couple hundred people. There's no pretense of discussion, but occasional questions. And the business of administrative stuff becomes really noticable, but not a problem.<BR/><BR/>BUT, there's real conflict between the ways we educators talk about getting students involved, even in large lecture halls, and taping lectures. All those clickies to see if you understand, the note cards to pass forward with questions, consulting with your peers, all that would be dead time on tape. And wouldn't work for students not in the room.<BR/><BR/>I don't have any answers. I hope to retire before I have to leave my smallish discussion based classes for a taping studio.Bardiachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22001031.post-73269212410303722722008-09-24T20:28:00.000-07:002008-09-24T20:28:00.000-07:00How can anyone be surprised that so many undergrad...How can anyone be surprised that so many undergraduates want lectures-on-demand?<BR/><BR/>This is the generation of McEducation.<BR/><BR/>They think they know more than the professors.<BR/><BR/>They think they learned everything they need to know in High School (where they were patted on their heads, told "Good Job!" and then sent along with a high GPA and little actual skill).<BR/><BR/>How will educators be able to gauge how well the students are learning when they fail to comprehend those McLectures?<BR/><BR/>I mean, it's not uncommon for most students nowadays to not even do the course reading. Are they to be expected to watch the recorded lecture too?<BR/><BR/>Not everyone is an auto-didact.<BR/><BR/>And while I think the whole podcast/lecture phenomenon is an excellent *supplemental* option, it will not serve undergraduates to become more or better educated.<BR/><BR/>Not these students.<BR/><BR/>And not at this time.The_Mythhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10621186404597424842noreply@blogger.com